"Yellow plates" [English]

  • Zitat von donati

    Hi


    Yes, i mean the plates with the yellow marking on the right side, where the expiration date is stamped.


    Finn,


    No, it is not allowed to use a so called German KKE outside Germany.


    Nevertheless, I registered my E28 ///M5 on a KKE and took a calculated risk to drive the 40km towards the German border very early on a Sunday morning and very late in the evening when comming back.


    Driving to Austria with a KKE is something that I would not risk if I where you.


    Rgrds,


    Raymond

  • :idea:
    yes , yes i want speak english very well , but et klappt noch not so schnell :)


    is jetzt nicht nur das forum in englisch , glaub ich hol mal schnell mein vokabelbuch :drink:

  • Zitat von alpinab10biturbo


    Finn,
    No, it is not allowed to use a so called German KKE outside Germany...
    ...Driving to Austria with a KKE is something that I would not risk if I where you....


    Ok thanks, if its not legal i wont take the chance.. i dont want to be stopped by police more than 1000km from home, without the right licenseplates for that country :)
    Btw. Im getting the German season plates for the trackcar for 2004.


    I asked because the Danish equivilant to the German KKE can be used in Sweden and Norway also, and also Alfred from the Memorial Run used the German "Red Garage plates" in France, Switzerland and Italy, he got stopped on the border between France and Switzerland, and was told that the plates where not legal to use in France, but it was ok in Switzerland.
    So i thought that maybe Germany have an arrangement with Switzerland and Austria, that the plates are valid there also, but i guess that it is not so..


    And a side note:
    Because i now notice it, i have spotted atleast 5, maybe 10 cars in my home town on German KKE plates, in the last year.. those people are very brave, since it will cost them the importtax, and a fine about 10% higher than the importtax, if they are stopped.. strange that they will take that risk, i think..

  • Zitat von donati

    And a side note:
    Because i now notice it, i have spotted atleast 5, maybe 10 cars in my home town on German KKE plates, in the last year.. those people are very brave, since it will cost them the importtax, and a fine about 10% higher than the importtax, if they are stopped.. strange that they will take that risk, i think..


    If they are using their cars on a daily basis, then yes it is very stupid.


    But if they, lime in my case, only use their imported car for only three or four times every year to keep her in good condition, paying tax money doesn't make sense. Then, I'd rather spend my money on preventive maintenance instead of paying that stupid luxury car tax for which i don't even get a discount for not using the car on a daily basis.

  • Raymond,


    I agree completely on the stupidity of the importtax on cars.. remember that in Denmark it is ~4.5 times higher than in Holland!
    For my '91s, it would be ~20k Euro each today.
    In 2026 my cars are old enough to be registred as old-timers, and then the importtax will drop to something like 1k Euro :)


    The baseprice for an M3 CSL is 248k Euro in Denmark.
    Quite insane..


    When i first bought my M5 i checked for previous court decisions, and found that people with residence in Denmark, that was stopped for driving on other than Danish plates was forced to pay the importtax, and also recived a fine that is 10% higher than the importtax of the car they was driving.


    So to drive the car to and from the border on German plates, like you have done, is a big no-no in Denmark.
    Renting temporary plates (equivilant to German KKE) is the way to do it here.


    The reason i asked about the KKE plates and Austria, is that it looks like im going there in late Feb., and was concidering taking the M5 (not the track one), if it was possible with KKE plates.
    That car is not yet registred on German plates, but probably will be later this year (early summer). Just taking the plates from the trackcar and put them on the other one, would make the insurance invalid.

  • Zitat von alpinab10biturbo

    Finn,


    In the first week of March, I'll be in Austria too. Where are you going?


    It looks like it will be Zell am See, but we have not decided yet.. there is not many options with this late a booking.
    We have just returned from Bad Gastein, and agreed that if possible we wanted to go for one more week. Snow conditions was perfect :)


    Where are you going?

  • Zitat von donati

    It looks like it will be Zell am See, but we have not decided yet.. there is not many options with this late a booking.
    We have just returned from Bad Gastein, and agreed that if possible we wanted to go for one more week. Snow conditions was perfect :)


    Where are you going?


    We will visit Gerlos this time, about 1hr from Zell am See. Last year, we stayed in Saalfelden which is an ideal location to reach both Zell Am See, Hinterglemm and Dienten/Muhlbach.


    Skiing on the Schmittenhohe is nice, but remember that Zell is always very busy, especially during the holidays. One has to avoid the crowded red descents later on the day as almost anyone is taking these to go down. I'd rather take the old cabin lift in the middle of Zell. This one is not that crowded. The only way down there is either the cabin lift or the black descent. This one is not that difficult and I wouldn't concider it black, but it is not that crowded.


    Also well worth it is Saalbach/Hinterglemm. Especially the Zwolferkopf with it's black descent 'Zwolfer Nord' is a must be if one is an experienced skier.

  • Zitat von Raymond

    Skiing on the Schmittenhohe is nice, but remember that Zell is always very busy, especially during the holidays. One has to avoid the crowded red descents later on the day as almost anyone is taking these to go down. I'd rather take the old cabin lift in the middle of Zell. This one is not that crowded. The only way down there is either the cabin lift or the black descent. This one is not that difficult and I wouldn't concider it black, but it is not that crowded.


    I will remember that tip, thank you.
    Normally we go on the red pistes, but the occasional black one is also in order.
    Btw. The Gastein area was not that crowded, quite the opposite acctually.. very nice.


    Zitat


    Also well worth it is Saalbach/Hinterglemm. Especially the Zwolferkopf with it's black descent 'Zwolfer Nord' is a must be if one is an experienced skier.


    Last year we stayed in Saalbach/Hinterglemm, and that was my first time on skis since i was a child, and as you know my personal fitness condition is not exactly the greatest, so im far from experienced..
    I think that the black piste we took on the last day was the one you mention.. ofcourse i took ~50meters of it with my head towards the valley and my feet towards the sky :)
    I remember that we took a lift called "Zwolferkopfelbahn" or something like that, many times.


    For the next trip in week 10, it looks like we are limited to Zell am See, or the Gastein area, because of the late booking.
    And since we have just been in Bad Gastein, we would prefer to try some new area.. so looks like Zell am See.


    I wish you a nice trip, and a return in one piece :)
    How is your knee after the surgery?, ok for skiing?


    PS. This is all very off-topic, so if admin wants to delete this thread, please feel free to do so.

  • Zitat von donati

    I wish you a nice trip, and a return in one piece :) How is your knee after the surgery?, ok for skiing?


    Thanks, and likewise.


    The exact words from the surgeon that operated my knee was that playing soccer is much worse then plain-skiing. That is, if I listen to my knee and rest when it resists. I will use caution on the first few days and then try to build up to my normal skiing level.

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